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11 September 2005 @ 12:44 am
Die Hard??? Are you kidding?  
Why is it that DIE HARD, and LETHAL WEAPON are so loved. Loved enough for sequels even? It seems like everytime I turn around some chapter of either of these fucking trainwrecks is on TMC or some other cable station. How hard is it to throw money at cars, guns, and explosions? What'd they do to write these movies anyway, throw some cheesy one liners onto some index cards and slap them together on a table? I guess if nothing else they made sure to use actors who are only capable of delivering the occasional 'DUH" on que.
 
 
 
Mr Gabagool: Prince Xisormr_gabagool on September 12th, 2005 02:47 am (UTC)
I like the Die hard trilogy. Die Hard 2: Die Harder i must admit is the weakest of the three. What i like most about John McLean's character is he isn't impervious to pain or injury. He gets FUCKED up every film, it's more real to me than the fact that every other action hero gets shot at and it's a scratch or a "flesh wound".

As for the Lethal Weapon series, i like them too. The third film was their weakest. I think for the most of it they are just fun films, guilty pleasures in some cases.
reverend_s on September 13th, 2005 11:49 pm (UTC)
Thanks for taking that one, man. I second your comments.
Mr Gabagoolmr_gabagool on September 14th, 2005 03:26 am (UTC)
No prob!
binro33binro33 on September 13th, 2005 12:00 am (UTC)
I have to agree. Those movies definitely blow goats.
I found the formulaic and braindead.
reverend_s on September 13th, 2005 11:50 pm (UTC)
Most action films are formulaic. Its what you do with that formula that matters.
binro33binro33 on September 22nd, 2005 03:08 am (UTC)
But what about the goats?
reverend_s on September 22nd, 2005 11:53 pm (UTC)
Well, they merely... uh, goats?
reverend_s on September 22nd, 2005 11:54 pm (UTC)
Oh, well, as long as the goats were of consensual age, then I don't see any problem with it.
binro33binro33 on September 27th, 2005 04:01 am (UTC)
Hear hear!
Holding hands with an impotent dreamcarlfinnegan on September 13th, 2005 01:21 am (UTC)
Almost ANYTHING with Bruce Willis bloze. "zOMG! Is he going to save the world in this one?! How will it end??"
Mr Gabagool: Prince Xisormr_gabagool on September 13th, 2005 03:15 am (UTC)
That's not true. Sin City was an awesome flick. One of the best comic book (graphic Novel) to film ever. And he doesn't save the world in the Die Hard flicks :)
binro33binro33 on September 13th, 2005 05:55 am (UTC)
I really didn't like Sin City. It was goofy and cartoony. I'm sure it reads better in Graphic Novel format.
As I sat through it, I could only start to not dislike it when I started thinking of it as a Barb Wire-esque parody.
reverend_s on September 13th, 2005 11:53 pm (UTC)
Okay, so far you've bad mouthed Die Hard, Lethal Weapon, and Sin City. What do you consider good action films?
binro33binro33 on September 22nd, 2005 03:11 am (UTC)
I'm not sure. I'll have to give that some thought.
If something is unintelligent and formulaic, that always strikes me as lazy scripting. It always feels to me like they are deliberately trying to rip the audience off by selling them an inferior product.
reverend_s on September 22nd, 2005 11:58 pm (UTC)
Well, you have to remember that there is a basic formula to most storytelling, and while some movies tend to break from that, innovation doesn't really work with every film.

As for unintelligent, I guess the two questions you need to ask are; 1) Exactly how intelligent does a film need to be to be entertaining? and b) At what point does a screenplay become too smart for it's own good, when suspension of disbelief should always be a variable factor?
reverend_s on September 13th, 2005 11:52 pm (UTC)
What? What about Blind Date? He didn't save the world in that one!

And I thought Armageddon was a great movie. So there.
Got coffee?: Stressed Outblackbirdcd on September 13th, 2005 11:55 pm (UTC)
Armageddon? Are you serious? Please tell me you aren't serious. The movie with the most straight-on talking head shots in history? Shot like a VISA card commercial?
reverend_s on September 14th, 2005 12:01 am (UTC)
I have to disagree with you on the direction. It may not be innovative or overly created, but it was the proper device to tell the story. And I'm sorry, but there are some DAMN FINE Visa commercials out there!
Got coffee?: MadCatblackbirdcd on September 14th, 2005 02:18 am (UTC)
The direction, editing, and pace of that movie made me want to hurl bottles at the screen. Bottles of vomit.
binro33binro33 on September 22nd, 2005 03:13 am (UTC)
I hate to admit it, but I actually didn't mind Armageddon. I looked at it as a comicbook and consequently, it worked for me.
(Anonymous) on September 14th, 2005 03:28 am (UTC)
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Mr Gabagoolmr_gabagool on September 14th, 2005 03:29 am (UTC)
I'm loving this room, now all we need is a couple hundred memebers for total chaos!